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Reps at big pharma companies make salaries as high as and even higher than ours (even non-rare disease). Our big bonuses opportunities will be over soon.

That isn't true at all. Very few pharma companies are paying 180-200k base salaries. Most are in oncology. A more typical base in our industry with plenty of experience is 140-160k. Facts.

Add in over 60k a year bonus at plan + 25k in RSU= highest paid company or definitely one of them.

Most people here feel Amgen will suck- might be true. But the vast majority of you won't be finding a better paying job.

If you are talking working conditions- then yes the OBU folks will find better jobs easily.
 




That isn't true at all. Very few pharma companies are paying 180-200k base salaries. Most are in oncology. A more typical base in our industry with plenty of experience is 140-160k. Facts.

Add in over 60k a year bonus at plan + 25k in RSU= highest paid company or definitely one of them.

Most people here feel Amgen will suck- might be true. But the vast majority of you won't be finding a better paying job.

If you are talking working conditions- then yes the OBU folks will find better jobs easily.


Listen here, sweetheart. First of all, we are done with RSUs that are worth a damn, so you can take that out of the equation. Secondly, go look at the Novartis rare disease neph jobs and look at their pay bands which are also for non-rare disease. Executive rep level goes up to $226k base. Their bonus is $57k. Plus, on top of the normal 6% 401k, they dump another percentage of your salary into your 401k yearly. Most of us would be at 7.5%. That’s just ONE big pharma company. Does everyone there make 180-200? No. Never said that. But plenty do.
 


Listen here, sweetheart. First of all, we are done with RSUs that are worth a damn, so you can take that out of the equation. Secondly, go look at the Novartis rare disease neph jobs and look at their pay bands which are also for non-rare disease. Executive rep level goes up to $226k base. Their bonus is $57k. Plus, on top of the normal 6% 401k, they dump another percentage of your salary into your 401k yearly. Most of us would be at 7.5%. That’s just ONE big pharma company. Does everyone there make 180-200? No. Never said that. But plenty do.
I hope you're not refereeing to the IBU reps- they would never qualify for that job.
 


Listen here, sweetheart. First of all, we are done with RSUs that are worth a damn, so you can take that out of the equation. Secondly, go look at the Novartis rare disease neph jobs and look at their pay bands which are also for non-rare disease. Executive rep level goes up to $226k base. Their bonus is $57k. Plus, on top of the normal 6% 401k, they dump another percentage of your salary into your 401k yearly. Most of us would be at 7.5%. That’s just ONE big pharma company. Does everyone there make 180-200? No. Never said that. But plenty do.

Novartis pays extremely well. For big pharma they pay the most. The executive rep level that goes to 226k is also a level above a normal rep- its the same pay band as managers. So no "non-rare disease" reps aren't on that band. Cardio reps aren't making anywhere near that, neither are immunology reps. Promoted positions like TLL or ISS make up to 226k (or more for TLL).

They do have a great 401k. They also give RSU. And unfortunately you don't qualify for that job so you are still here complaining....
 


Cardio is the lowest of all of the divisions. There’s a ton of them (well a little less now). It’s basically primary care. I don’t even count them. I promise you that there are plenty of Cosentyx reps (non-ISS) that make in the 180s and 190s.
 


Cardio is the lowest of all of the divisions. There’s a ton of them (well a little less now). It’s basically primary care. I don’t even count them. I promise you that there are plenty of Cosentyx reps (non-ISS) that make in the 180s and 190s.

I was a manager there. Not true... plenty in the 160-170 range...very very few in the 180-190k range even with the salary adjustments
 




What if this FTC lawsuit delays the Amgen merger long enough that Amgen just backs out. What happens with Tepezza then? This product hasn't hit its numbers in what a year? Do they scrap everything and start over from the top down?
 




How often do managers ride with reps? I heard it is every month? This is rare disease, that feels like too much. Is there a lot of reports and paperwork?

every month and they go over your calls for the month. Watch you log call into Veeva. Schedule lunches and speaker programs. Then they tell you that the reason TEP is underperforming is because you don’t have enough PEFs
 


The goals in this division are not aligned with rare disease! They are skewed towards high volume territories many that are putting in false PEFs and have been for quite some time. Many are making less in bonus now that when they first started and are at or over goal!
IC is a mess. That retention bonus is a mess.
SAMs don’t have control over starts and how quickly they happen, stop tying bonus to others performance. We can only control what happens in our own territories.
Maybe Tepezza started off hot but when you’re the only Rx treatment there’s a bunch of untreated patients to fill the funnel, now that it’s been out for a while the amount in the funnel is far less.
The check the box metrics, forced programs are ridiculous and very primary care.
The entire OBU is a train wreck and it starts with Richard and Eric.
At least you have a job asshole. Half of the originals were let go 5 minutes after being told we were expanding our sales force. They let people 48 and above go for no reason and replaced us the following Monday with 20-30 year olds. I lost my home, so who gives a crap about less bonus. You still have a paycheck that should be mine.
 


How often do managers ride with reps? I heard it is every month? This is rare disease, that feels like too much. Is there a lot of reports and paperwork?
Enough to harass, bully, and threaten you.
Enough to tell you how bad you suck as a rep and that you need to consider a new career. Enough to put you down for no reason. the managers here are the biggest jerks and are idiots.
 



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