Thoughts on NMM?


Before I answer that, I need to know if the messages delivered today are the same messages they delivered to King before dumping them.

guess that could be answered by former king folk....sounded like they said they were going to invest and grow the business. is that what king was told before the sale?
 
Why are we still talking about this. They have already given you the answer in their actions. Name is Fougera so will concentrate on enhancing the generic side of the business, only selling two brands in Derm (brands that will not grow) so just tidying that up to sell, their past history, layong off as many as they have, moving and CEO staying behind the scenes. It all adds up to making the place look pretty, enhancing the generic brands and the manufactoring to look attractive to a buyer. Not selling tomorrow but getting out of Derm soon and eventually taking their profits and moving on. The past is a good indicator of the future.
 
I hope NMM is an acronym for No More Meetings.

Is there anything that this management team can do that would make you happy? Every effort is criticized, every gesture is met with skepticism. It may not have been a perfect meeting but at least we were included in the discussions. If you are at the level that you were invited and are still bitching, you are just a negative force in the room so don't come next time.
 
Is there anything that this management team can do that would make you happy? Every effort is criticized, every gesture is met with skepticism. It may not have been a perfect meeting but at least we were included in the discussions. If you are at the level that you were invited and are still bitching, you are just a negative force in the room so don't come next time.

I second that emotion. We have a few really negative nellies on this board. Life must be very frustrating with such a crap outlook.
 
I second that emotion. We have a few really negative nellies on this board. Life must be very frustrating with such a crap outlook.

How long have you been working there? My guess isnt very long, and if you have, it's probably in one of the better run departments. But I couls be wrong.

Either way I understand both sides. Based on some of the present management who represent a lot of the issues that previous management created, the track record of the new guys tidying up and selling out, I see why some of the folks here are skeptical.

Had I not already left, I too would be asking the same questions. I am still in touch with several folks who were at the meeting and they all have the same cautiously optomistic view.

I do feel that the new management has a (perhaps unfair) burden of proving themselves to their employees. Let's face it, anyone there for more than a couple of years has been through quite a lot. And there's a big difference between pessimism and skepticism.
 
I agree about the negative people on here that they should try and be more positive and I want to be positive. My situation is I agree with a poster awhile back who said its not what they say its what they do. For example I for one appreciate the jeans and superbowl party and the little things they try and do. The little stuff in my opinion goes along way. Its just I find it hard to listen to how they want to change the culture here but do nothing about RL and JB. I am not suggesting they listen to the acqusations on here but all they need to do is talk to the right people and get them to open up. Many employees both in Melville in FP are really frustrated that these two were allowed to do what they did. So if they tolerate that behavior and refuse to talk to people and do something about a situation that is pulling so many of us down I then find it hard to listen about changing cultures. To me that would be the single greatest thing to boost employee moral because it will show me atleast they want people who dont just say the right things but do the right things
 
I've been in manufacturing for a long time (anyone remember the BykG days?), and I have read the posts on the two you mention. It's pretty clear you have an axe to grind, posting the same message every few days. I have no idea what happened in other departments. But I can tell you one thing, this place went from great many years ago to out of control last year. Things are hugely better in manufacturing now. The two you keep picking on took over at the height of our problems and played a big role in how we improved. If we did not get the problems fixed, we'd be in a lot of trouble, maybe more jobs would be lost, and so on. You may not like them, and that's fine for you to believe that. But there are many people here that would disagree.
 
I've been in manufacturing for a long time (anyone remember the BykG days?), and I have read the posts on the two you mention. It's pretty clear you have an axe to grind, posting the same message every few days. I have no idea what happened in other departments. But I can tell you one thing, this place went from great many years ago to out of control last year. Things are hugely better in manufacturing now. The two you keep picking on took over at the height of our problems and played a big role in how we improved. If we did not get the problems fixed, we'd be in a lot of trouble, maybe more jobs would be lost, and so on. You may not like them, and that's fine for you to believe that. But there are many people here that would disagree.

Agreed, to a point. Things are better in manufacturing. Don't think those two had that much to do with it though. At least not one of them anyway. A lot of change was already underway when they stepped into the shoes they now wear.

Still, problems persist, but one must now dig a little deeper to see them. They're a little less obvious, but just as critical.
 
Poster who said I have an ax to grind is wrong. I have not once posted about JB or Rl till today. I do feel like other posters though that it is a shame what they were llowed to get away with. As far as them helping manufactoring well one had nothing to do with it and the other stepped in when things were well under way. For once let him take on a project from the beginning and see it to the end. If you feel differently then please tell me what he did in R & D from beginning to ten, when he was at PD he stepped in and made changes being led by another individual (Lothar) and then walked away without finishing anything and in manufactoring as stated took over once the major decisions atleast had been discussed and solutions were already on the table. So while yes I do not like their ways I do not have an ax to grind. Im just stating fact. So again please tell me one project he took from Day one and accomplished something and saw it through till the end. It certainly wasnt PD and R&D.
 
I've been in manufacturing for a long time (anyone remember the BykG days?), and I have read the posts on the two you mention. It's pretty clear you have an axe to grind, posting the same message every few days. I have no idea what happened in other departments. But I can tell you one thing, this place went from great many years ago to out of control last year. Things are hugely better in manufacturing now. The two you keep picking on took over at the height of our problems and played a big role in how we improved. If we did not get the problems fixed, we'd be in a lot of trouble, maybe more jobs would be lost, and so on. You may not like them, and that's fine for you to believe that. But there are many people here that would disagree.

The two that get "picked on" as you claim, are not responsible for the improvements, but then, since you are obviously one of them, what can one expect other than you taking credit for what others put in place. Lying is one of your many specialties. And I'm not the same poster as above. You are clueless as to how many people in the company hate the two of you. You are horrible people and need to be gone.
 
Nothing was put in place and "handed" to either of them. We were on our way to a warning letter, this told to us by very high-level experts on several occassions. "Those two" as you refer to them, were involved in the plan to remediate and the execution of it. You'd have a warning letter if they weren't there. You have NO idea what you are talking about. You weren't in the trenches fighting the war. Never were, never will be. You're a weak, cowardly person that is upset about the hand of cards you ended up with. If you put half as much energy into doing a good job as you do in wasting time on this board, maybe your department would be somewhere.

Things he did? How about the technical operations group (if you can even comprehend what they do)? No one was pushing for that until hated citizen #1 made it a priority. Oh, and for kicks, that saved 20 people's jobs that would have been lost if the previous administration had their way. But "hated man" fought to keep them and formed the group. And it is already paying dividends. But I'm sure someone will try to say that wasn't his idea either. Have you ever saved one job in your pitiful career?

How about your "profitable TRx targets?" That wasn't anyone's idea in marketing or any part of PD. Hated citizen #1 again. You guys had no idea about your rebates. You are the ones who people should be angry with for causing the problem in the first place. Who was the moron in marketing that created those "medicaid approved" stickers? Could you have been any more stupid? Could you? I don't think so.

You blame the hated one for the pipeline issues. It's 2012, and our lack of products has to do with decisions made in 2005-2006 (or did you think you can just launch products in 3 months?). The hated one wasn't here then (or anytime near there), so don't blame him. It's the people who were running the show in those days that did not plant the seeds needed. Hated one did not even take over R&D til last year, how can you possibly blame him for a lack of a pipeline?

There are many more examples of your misguided, cry-baby rants. You are wrong. You are misinformed. You excel at trying to create the illusion of wrong-doing. You are the kind of person that complains all of the time. You think you should be promoted. You are not creating momentum, you are detracting from it. Keep your eye on the ball and try helping the team win. If you even know how.....
 
Get off the board Ralph, let members are supposed to have some class, something you know NOTHING about. You are a liar, cheat and vindictive slug who brings nothing to the table. One day, someone is going to sue you and the company for harassment. So shut up, take the criticism like a man and go away.
 
Hated one? Oh, that's rich, you arent worth the energy it takes to hate. You are known as fat boy or better yet, thongman.
You promised all kind,s of pipeline products from Bradley. Where are they? You lied about that. You promised to bring in deals while running BD. Result? Nothing. You were given the opportunity to run PD and sales fell. Yet you continue to take credit for others good work. You are truly disgusting. The best part of this board is that you are so easily baited. Your ego is so out of control, you just can't help yourself and it's incredibly funny to watch you explode.
Like someone else said, watch yourself, because sooner or later, you will be the cause of a lawsuit because of your behavior and the company will take a big hit. So suck on that while you wolf down another free dinner at Blackstone's on the company's dime. your days are numbered.
 
Get off the board Ralph, let members are supposed to have some class, something you know NOTHING about. You are a liar, cheat and vindictive slug who brings nothing to the table. One day, someone is going to sue you and the company for harassment. So shut up, take the criticism like a man and go away.

YOU are the LIAR. You acuse with no proof. Acuse from behind the facade of this board (COWARD). Never once showed any evidence (BS ARTIST). You have no idea what you are talking about and this is all about YOU being a cry baby and not getting what you want. YOU are the one that needs to grow up and start getting something done for this company.
 
Ralph please get off you look like a fool. But then again.....PD was already figuring out what to do with Medicaid targets way before you stepped in. In fact "Hated one" when you stepped in many of the processes were already under way. You just took guidance from Lothar. YOU YES YOU never made a decision on your own. Please answer then are there any products we are going to launch even down the road as you said that you put into place when you were running R&D. I think not. Also since you seem to want to always defend yourself how come you have defended yourself on this ? Where are all those receipts for your so called dinners and stays at the Melville Marriott w/ the other one. Oh dont worry we can dig them up. I just thought you would atleast defend that since you seem so big on defending your record but some how funny you dont seem to want to defend that.
 


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