Middle aged man carrying Olive Garden, in a suit...


I can appreciate this response. I'm 40 as well but what worries me is that between new legalities in health care and access getting worse and worse, lay offs increasing, what do we do when we cant get back in? I've been in the industry 11 years and I've been laid off now for 8 and other industries wont look at me. I have many awards and a good record but its the reality.

Check out www.medicalsalescollege.com

They will train and prepare you to help get into medical device sales. I took the program after being in pharm for many years and have landed a great job in the orthopedic industry. I am no longer in the catering business and work in the operating room every day.
 


I can appreciate this response. I'm 40 as well but what worries me is that between new legalities in health care and access getting worse and worse, lay offs increasing, what do we do when we cant get back in? I've been in the industry 11 years and I've been laid off now for 8 and other industries wont look at me. I have many awards and a good record but its the reality.

You need to leverage your relationships, and there are always products you can sell to doctors.

don't complicate your career.
 


Check out www.medicalsalescollege.com

They will train and prepare you to help get into medical device sales. I took the program after being in pharm for many years and have landed a great job in the orthopedic iyndustry. I am no longer in the catering business and work in the operating room every day.

Device is facing the same fate as pharma. All we can do is buy time until we find another opportunity outside the industry. The operating room gets old real quick you will see. Make the best of it and enjoy it while it lasts. I wouldn't advise any of my family and friends to enter device sales but to each their own. Good luck.
 


Check out www.medicalsalescollege.com

They will train and prepare you to help get into medical device sales. I took the program after being in pharm for many years and have landed a great job in the orthopedic industry. I am no longer in the catering business and work in the operating room every day.

An obvious advertisement from EliteMed-Medical Sales College. These people think we are dumb.
 


An obvious advertisement from EliteMed-Medical Sales College. These people think we are dumb.

exactly.

job market has been terrible for at least 5 years, and a lot of that has to do with the policy in DC, so things will not get better if socialism continues in Nov.

Many companies are holding cash to wait and see what happen in Nov., which makes this the most important election in the USA since 1980.
 


Device is facing the same fate as pharma. All we can do is buy time until we find another opportunity outside the industry. The operating room gets old real quick you will see. Make the best of it and enjoy it while it lasts. I wouldn't advise any of my family and friends to enter device sales but to each their own. Good luck.

Sorry to hear that the competition is eating you for lunch. Best you get out now before your boss fires you from continually not hitting quota. Get one of those jobs at the kiosk selling hair extensions in the mall
 




I “safely” W2’d @ $217K this year and received another 1300 shares in the form of options and grants. Not to mention my 52 cents a mile for my car which I profited around $15K non taxed. Oh that $217K does have my $8400 for the monthly car allowance of $700 so I guess I really only made $208K this year. I also “safely” purchased 20K worth of my company stock at a 15% discount on the lowest share price of the 1H. I also ‘safely’ jammed $16,500 into my 401K and the company through in $4500. Yeah it sucks doing three lunches a week and seeing your boss once a quarter for drinks to go over my “business plan”. I spend more time with my family then most people and with the extremely flexible schedule of this job and industry I’ve never missed a game, a recital, a teachers conference etc. Not all drug companies are evil and micromanagement hell…just the big pharma. There are a lot of good companies out there…you poor saps just never get a call from them…a good place to start is NOT working for companies listed on CP or at least go to the ones with very litter traffic or posts. I can tell you this CP is nowhere near an exhaustive list of drug companies with sales forces out there…

This is a Genentech rep- entitled POS
 


Yeah this job totally sucks.....

Pull in $180,000 a year with bonus...

Company car....

Great benes.....

5 weeks vacation....

What really sucks is that I have to work about 3 hours a week....after drive time listening to talk radio....

Oh yeah...I also have to carry in a couple bags of food occassionally and am worried about it crushing my self esteem because I'm so insecure....
 


Yeah this job totally sucks.....

Pull in $180,000 a year with bonus...

Company car....

Great benes.....

5 weeks vacation....

What really sucks is that I have to work about 3 hours a week....after drive time listening to talk radio....

Oh yeah...I also have to carry in a couple bags of food occassionally and am worried about it crushing my self esteem because I'm so insecure....

its a total kiss assing job.

Make all the money you want, but I will take self respect over anything.
 


Yeah this job totally sucks.....

Pull in $180,000 a year with bonus...

Company car....

Great benes.....

5 weeks vacation....

What really sucks is that I have to work about 3 hours a week....after drive time listening to talk radio....

Oh yeah...I also have to carry in a couple bags of food occassionally and am worried about it crushing my self esteem because I'm so insecure....

What pharm makes 180? Most managers don't make that.

It's okay every sales rep tells the truth about salary here...cough.
 


Specialty Reps make $180....you insecure young little dweebs get paid about $60k right?

I'll take my $180 and buy my toys.....you can try to barter with your "self respect"....I'm sure it has gotten you a lot right?

Again it comes down to your own insecurity. Grow up little reps or get out...
 


Specialty Reps make $180....you insecure young little dweebs get paid about $60k right?

I'll take my $180 and buy my toys.....you can try to barter with your "self respect"....I'm sure it has gotten you a lot right?

Again it comes down to your own insecurity. Grow up little reps or get out...

you are a moron.

keep snorting whatever you snort and die and grow old with nobody going to your funeral.
 






Specialty Reps make $180....you insecure young little dweebs get paid about $60k right?

I'll take my $180 and buy my toys.....you can try to barter with your "self respect"....I'm sure it has gotten you a lot right?

Again it comes down to your own insecurity. Grow up little reps or get out...

Toys...wow. Interesting post. I'm in device, make what you do, am 30 years old and I don't brag about toys. I'd rather spend time with my baby boy and wife, continue with my charity work, and not chastise people for what they make.

To each his own. You sound very happy.
 


180K is BS, 150 maybe for specialty. Anyway, it is a great job compared to the alternatives. I hope I can last until retirement because the industry is changing, the regulations over what we can say and do keep ramping up. Soon, there won't be any need at all for us. Samples can come in the mail, drug information is available on the internet, hotels still give out pens, and Olive Garden will deliver for a small fee. Hang on as long you can. How long will that be?
 


take the two year community college curriculum to become a Physical Therapy Assistant. This career is flexible, in high demand, and well paid. The travel jobs pay up to $45/hr. You can work part time or full time or full time working part time for several PT offices. You write your own ticket.

Hey! I'm carrying OG into an office, by request, in less than 12 hours. Now I'm not gonna sleep, can't turn the key to my Ford ______ tomorrow, and feel like i need to just end my life. Really? No... I'm just kidding, and am now being honest, unlike so many posts here.
 


Hey! I'm carrying OG into an office, by request, in less than 12 hours. Now I'm not gonna sleep, can't turn the key to my Ford ______ tomorrow, and feel like i need to just end my life. Really? No... I'm just kidding, and am now being honest, unlike so many posts here.


How did it go?

Your post made me laugh.

Its just a job, right? Dam, I miss the good ole days, when professionals were treated like professionals and there was one interview for the job!
 


Boy life sure is tough in the pharma industry. I'm a sales rep in the automotive aftermarket world, and do the same exact things as you pharma guys, making a nice 80k, plus car, all of that.. And guess what...it's NO different.

It's repetitive, it's a game of managing your time to appear busier than you really are, you schmooze people in base jobs, to hear the decision maker ramble on about how much the business sucks and is down, and then log it in sales force, and repeat.

I'd love to know what a real job out there is because I've had several of them, including a stint as a police officer. You want to talk about a job with pressure AND dealing with the bottom 5% of society, vs the top you guys deal with...

In short, an outsider looking at these boards wondering how to get into pharma or med devices looks at these posts and sees a bunch of pissy braggarts... If you hate the job and the industry, then do everyone a favor and go get that real job where you keep your head high, and GTFO of the industry, because I sure as hell would love a crack at pissing and moaning about how the job sucks, while making a cool 50k+ more than I do now for the same job with a different product.

Do me a fair, give me a connection to a hiring manager In your company, and I'll do the rest to turn your territory around after you leave for those elusive greener pastures. Ou guys are so bad ass posting anonymously about how bad your anonymous employer is in your anonymous region.

Quit your bitching and make room for someone who wants in and would be tickled for 125k a year. Go get a mobile car wash franchise or open a few subways and be happy then.
 



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