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Vagitarian said:
The majority of the posters, the majority of the country and the law know the truth. The bad seed isn't a child yet so abort the 'thing' and do us all a favor. That's the way the story ends these days and that's the way it's gonna stay. :cool:
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The Nazis could have said pretty much the same thing and they were proven to be wrong. Time may prove you wrong as well.

Regardless of the law or majority opinion, I'd rather be in line with the facts, logic, love, morality and God!
 


First, as i have said over and over, having a child is not temporary.

Second, if any of you have a friend or family member who is raped, above all else realize they have suffered a trauma and may likely experience a period of shock. Indecisiveness is very common. Denial is common. Taking the morning after pill is a good option but might not be offered, and the woman might not even admit to being raped. Even if taken, it isto not 100% effective. An abortion might not happen by 6the wks either as she will be 2 wks along and miss a period, then may try to ignore and deny the pregnancy.

There is no such thing as an unbiased counselor. So remember you believe your position is correct. Put it aside. Drive her to the ER, the pharmacy, a crisis center, a police station, a lawyer who handles adoption, an abortion clinic, or to lamaze classes. Wherever she wants to go. If it were you would you want judgement and someone who had not lived it telling you what to do, or what you should do, or would you just want support for to do what you must for your own survival and sanity? Help her by doing what she needs, not what you think is right. This is not about YOU.
 




Phoebe said:
And I love you too Vag. It is also impossible for her to delete the child without deleting herself if she is trying to do away with the memories.

Vag....I will say this; if a friend, child, friend's child...whomever....if this happened to someone I knew. I would NOT judge them for their choice; I would rally around with sincere love and help in any way I could that would help them get through and past it. And before you even ask....NO, I would drive them to the abort clinic; someone else could do that.
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She isn't 'just trying to do away with the memories'. The memories will never be completely gone. She's trying to get back to her life of hopes and dreams the way she planned amd the way she deserves. A rape pregnancy interrupts all that and steals her future and unfairly so.

I know someone who was put in that position years ago (a brutal gang rape). Fotunately she got rid of it but still the event (the rape) itself took years and years to get over and she still may not be over it. Had she been cruelly forced to carry it and give birth, then been forced to decide on adoption, who knows what would have happened to her.

Thank god (allegorically speaking) she was free to choose to restore herself as much as possible. Thankfully she wasn't forced to endure 9 more months of hell just to appease someone's 'interpretation' of book written ages ago. the bible.
 


Man For All Seasons said:
The Nazis could have said pretty much the same thing and they were proven to be wrong. Time may prove you wrong as well.

Regardless of the law or majority opinion, I'd rather be in line with the facts, logic, love, morality and God!
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Nazi's? ROFLMFAO!!! Have you been talkin to 'Sleepless in Seattle?' LOL :cool:
 


Vagitarian said:
Nazi's? ROFLMFAO!!! Have you been talkin to 'Sleepless in Seattle?' LOL :cool:
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Laugh all you want, but sadly the joke is on you.

The point is that lots of wicked things enjoyed majority support and were legal in Nazi Germany therefore legality and majority support doesn't necessarily mean much. This endeth the lesson.
 


Man For All Seasons said:
Laugh all you want, but sadly the joke is on you.

The point is that lots of wicked things enjoyed majority support and were legal in Nazi Germany therefore legality and majority support doesn't necessarily mean much. This endeth the lesson.
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Fuck you. You don't know shit about Nazis. My father fought them and lost a leg to them doing so. My beliefs on this subject are the same as his - except now he has passed. You have a lot of nerve channeling something you aren't. You also have zero class.
 


SPN said:
First, as i have said over and over, having a child is not temporary.

Second, if any of you have a friend or family member who is raped, above all else realize they have suffered a trauma and may likely experience a period of shock. Indecisiveness is very common. Denial is common. Taking the morning after pill is a good option but might not be offered, and the woman might not even admit to being raped. Even if taken, it isto not 100% effective. An abortion might not happen by 6the wks either as she will be 2 wks along and miss a period, then may try to ignore and deny the pregnancy.

There is no such thing as an unbiased counselor. So remember you believe your position is correct. Put it aside. Drive her to the ER, the pharmacy, a crisis center, a police station, a lawyer who handles adoption, an abortion clinic, or to lamaze classes. Wherever she wants to go. If it were you would you want judgement and someone who had not lived it telling you what to do, or what you should do, or would you just want support for to do what you must for your own survival and sanity? Help her by doing what she needs, not what you think is right. This is not about YOU.
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Neither is ending the life of a child temporary.

With all due respect this is pathetic advice. In a time of trouble and emotional upset a woman needs good advice. Yeah, everyone is biased, including the woman in question.

Anyone who believes that she should NOT take the life of the child inside her, OWES it to her to give her that advice, not just do whatever she may want at the moment which she could regret deeply later.

If she ends the life of the child, she needs support, understanding and forgiveness, but to not give your best advice to her for her consideration and simply be an enabler is a big mistake.

If we had a mutual friend and she sought our advice, you should give her your best advice and I should give her mine and then we should both be there for her in the aftermath regardless of which option she chose.
 
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Vagitarian said:
Fuck you. You don't know shit about Nazis. My father fought them and lost a leg to them doing so. My beliefs on this subject are the same as his - except now he has passed. You have a lot of nerve channeling something you aren't. You also have zero class.
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Wow it didn't take long for laugher to get nasty. LOL!

Dude, get real! I don't have to have fought the Nazis to know historical fact.

I appreciate yourDad's service and sacrifice. It's a shame his son is so ignorant of the history of the enemy he sacrificed so much for to vanquish.
 


And another. You know, if it wasn't for just one poster we could talk about anything here including politics. But whenever we get close, someone has to start with their mean, hateful bullshit and the whole thread goes to hell.

just sayin'
 


AnswerMan4Ever! said:
And another. You know, if it wasn't for just one poster we could talk about anything here including politics. But whenever we get close, someone has to start with their mean, hateful bullshit and the whole thread goes to hell.

just sayin'
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So are you saying that (in your opinion) the posts of just one poster closed the poli board?
 








AnswerMan4Ever! said:
Only one of the posters who caused the closing of the poli board remains here still posting.
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I disagree as I haven't seen MFAS for awhile and BB hasn't been here, neither has RABY. All they have to do is ban or modmo the posters so wtf are you talking about?

This is an emotionally charged, polarizing election. People within parties are pointing fingers. No matter how it ends about half of the American people are going to be very unhappy. I've yet to hear one, sustained discussion of it on either side that hasn't degenerated into a state of ugliness. Could it possibly be that CP juist didn't need that? Especially with advertisers who pay the bills and don't wish to sponsor ugly discussions?

Or do you have inside info as to why it closed?
 


Vagitarian said:
I disagree as I haven't seen MFAS for awhile and BB hasn't been here, neither has RABY. All they have to do is ban or modmo the posters so wtf are you talking about?

This is an emotionally charged, polarizing election. People within parties are pointing fingers. No matter how it ends about half of the American people are going to be very unhappy. I've yet to hear one, sustained discussion of it on either side that hasn't degenerated into a state of ugliness. Could it possibly be that CP juist didn't need that? Especially with advertisers who pay the bills and don't wish to sponsor ugly discussions?

Or do you have inside info as to why it closed?
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Well stated Vag - The Answer guy is barking up the wrong tree again and is just trying to stir things up. He is a very bellicose poster and really needs to chill out.

He claims that others, in his words, 'start mean, hateful bullshit'. Answer guy needs to take a long hard look in the mirror before hurling false charges against any RP.
 






A Pale Horsisscist? Nah. To set the record straight I'm not accusing anyone of anything, I'm just asking. I don't see any current posters fitting this description although I do see posters in major disagreement. To me, that isn't mean, it's just major disagreement. In fact I've only seen one other poster ever use the 'mean' word and that was BB.

Hmmmm...........................
 


Phoebe said:
Wouldn't it be nice and FUN too....If....If....IF the mods (Sarah and MBryan) would re-open the poli board JUST for "1" week (or a little longer IF the vote count drags out...just until it is called DONE), starting at 6am in the morning. ONE week and allow views from both sides....of course being as nice as possible.
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I don't see that accomplishing anything. It used to be, in America, people competed and when they lost they conceced and went back to being Americans.
Those days are over. Now, like athletes, they cheat and if they get caught or lose, it's sour grapes. I'm glad the damned thing is closed. We can PM each other or use Facebook or regular email to express our views if we like. Daily ranting does nothing but divide.
 


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