I would like to sincerely apologize to the DSM involved for my comment. It was late. I was pissed, I do not even know who that person is and was way out of line.
I do stand by everything else that I said.
I would like to sincerely apologize to the DSM involved for my comment. It was late. I was pissed, I do not even know who that person is and was way out of line.
I do stand by everything else that I said.
Snowmobiling and Quad running is a dangerous activity.
I hope Lynn wasn’t hot dogging like those other nitwits do on the trails and lakes.
I hope Lynn wasn’t hot dogging like those other nitwits do on the trails and lakes.
what an asshole comment...she went thru the ice..have some compassion
Yes... have some compassion. Don’t be an idiot sales rep and speak before you THINK! This company is really heading downwards.....
Lynn was a loyal and hard working rep who went through some very emotionally challenging times both personally and dealing with the caustic AZ culture. She was a kind person trying to do the best job she could and suffered and survived many really poor managers.
This is such a sad story on so many counts.
There are a lot of AZ casualties like Lynn out there. Those that began their careers hired by and working for truly good and supportive DSMs who were proven and experienced sales people. They coached and modeled excellent sales skills and prided themselves in developing future DSMs and leaders in the company. Today the role of successful leaders has done a 180 in a culture of gotcha management where people are promoted for having fired the most reps or who have used the politics of marginalizing their peers by backstabbing and rumor mongering to promote their own careers at the expense of everyone else around them. Lynn was a great person who deserved a lot better.
whatever! AZ fucked over a lot of good people that we’re supercteps period!
This sickens me on so many levels. My thoughts are with everyone that was affected. Unfortunately the criteria used left no room for exceptions. Baffles me that an organization can continue to operate like this and expect performance, yet do Nothing to boost morale.
Even more baffling is that many that Should be let go continue to make it through these cuts time after time. How in the world is MB in Houston still employed after the toxicity he generates??
Even more baffling is that many that Should be let go continue to make it through these cuts time after time. How in the world is MB in Houston still employed after the toxicity he generates??
I totally agree with the above post. You see good sales people go for no valid reason. How about firing the account director who didn't get the product on formulary? Nooooooooooooooo that never happens. So you blame a damn good rep or a damn good manager and fire them. Well if they would do it to them...they will do it to me someday. I don't care anymore about dear ole AZ....I'll go through the motions and give them the metrics they want while building my side business.
i retired from AZ 7 years ago. I am not sure if I knew Lynn or not. Where did she live? God be with her family and friends.
Right on post. How can you have loyalty to a company that treats people like this? I go through the motions daily. At least 80% of my sales calls are saying hi to the doc. I used to feel bad about this but over time I'm numb.
Good point. I never heard of an account director losing their job over a managed care loss or failure to get a drug on formulary. Wonder why the bottom 10% of this group isn't given the pink slip?
This couldn’t be more true!! I laughed when they talked on the resp call last week about retaining top talent and how good the cultur is. Are they working for the same company?? Do they pay attention at all??? The culture is Terrible!! There is no recognition, they don’t give us the resources we need to produce the results theyr asking for and they rarely promote from within - oh yeah and merry Christmas you’re fired. Sounds like a great place to work!!
They do not care. Always remember this is just a job. Laid off in 2016 after 35 years. Told the decision was based on my first and only performance review where I did not meet sales expectations. I had pointed out reporting errors third quarter and they agreed they were wrong. By end of the year I was in the top 25%. They took their snapshot of my performance third quarter when they knew and admitted the numbers were wrong. They decided I had a bad year. Did not matter that I was right , they enginered it knowing it would be an excuse two years down the road. Happier than ever. Got paid a huge severance and cashed out on the Stuart legacy pension. Watch your back Jack with these people. The job is an illusion and a far cry from the professionalism and ethics this job once represented. My advice, have a plan to do something else or bounce from company to company for more money. They do not care or recognize talent or value in their employees.
DB in Iowa is a great example of this. And the idiot that he just hired to replace himself.
ALPENA (WJRT) (01/04/2019) - A Bay County woman is dead, after falling through thin ice while snowmobiling on Long Lake in Alpena Friday morning.
Her boyfriend was pulled to safety, but emergency crews were unable to get her out of the water in time. Her family and friends are grieving her loss in Linwood, as officials warn of the danger of trusting the ice.
Friends say 60-year-old Lynne Bever, a mother of three, was a vibrant woman who loved the great outdoors, was athletic and looking forward to playing ice hockey again after recently retiring.
"It's such a shock,” said Ken Grew. “It’ll affect us all here, because we've always all been close."
Grew and Laura Lambeth had just returned from up north when they learned of their friend's death on Friday.
Neighbors for six years, they grew close, sharing bonfires and fireworks on the Saginaw Bay during the summertime, and celebrating the annual neighborhood Christmas party hosted by Bever in the month of December.
"She was amazing, smart, strong woman, so something just, something went wrong," Lambeth remarked.
She noted that there had been a lot of snow cover on Long Lake, which may have been misleading.
Michigan State Police said Bever made the call to 9-1-1 for help herself around 10:30 a.m. on Friday after falling through the ice on her snowmobile. Her boyfriend and first responders tried to reach her.
"They were able to don suits and get a life line rope going and start belly crawling across the lake to try to reach her," said Lt. Travis House.
The ice was so thin, two of the the first responders fell into the water along with her boyfriend. He was eventually pulled to safety, but in order to get Bever out of the water, they had to wait for an airboat to arrive due to the instablity of the ice on the lake.
"Unfortunately by that time she was in cardiac arrest and they were unable to save her,” House said.
The medical examiner ruled her cause of death to be drowning.
Her friends are still struggling to come to grips with her death.
"She loved it out here so much," said Grew. "This was her favorite place to be."
In 2007, Bever lost her husband to a rare neurological disease. Grew recalled how she used to walk the beach and collect bits of glass.
Her boyfriend was pulled to safety, but emergency crews were unable to get her out of the water in time. Her family and friends are grieving her loss in Linwood, as officials warn of the danger of trusting the ice.
Friends say 60-year-old Lynne Bever, a mother of three, was a vibrant woman who loved the great outdoors, was athletic and looking forward to playing ice hockey again after recently retiring.
"It's such a shock,” said Ken Grew. “It’ll affect us all here, because we've always all been close."
Grew and Laura Lambeth had just returned from up north when they learned of their friend's death on Friday.
Neighbors for six years, they grew close, sharing bonfires and fireworks on the Saginaw Bay during the summertime, and celebrating the annual neighborhood Christmas party hosted by Bever in the month of December.
"She was amazing, smart, strong woman, so something just, something went wrong," Lambeth remarked.
She noted that there had been a lot of snow cover on Long Lake, which may have been misleading.
Michigan State Police said Bever made the call to 9-1-1 for help herself around 10:30 a.m. on Friday after falling through the ice on her snowmobile. Her boyfriend and first responders tried to reach her.
"They were able to don suits and get a life line rope going and start belly crawling across the lake to try to reach her," said Lt. Travis House.
The ice was so thin, two of the the first responders fell into the water along with her boyfriend. He was eventually pulled to safety, but in order to get Bever out of the water, they had to wait for an airboat to arrive due to the instablity of the ice on the lake.
"Unfortunately by that time she was in cardiac arrest and they were unable to save her,” House said.
The medical examiner ruled her cause of death to be drowning.
Her friends are still struggling to come to grips with her death.
"She loved it out here so much," said Grew. "This was her favorite place to be."
In 2007, Bever lost her husband to a rare neurological disease. Grew recalled how she used to walk the beach and collect bits of glass.
You have to remember that both Kim & Mike have been managing up (bum kissing) for many years. Mike was a DSM in Pitt area years ago and once he went inside, he played the game as well as anyone. Show extreme positivity no matter what was being thrown out. Listen to him at meetings and calls, literally nothing of substance. Literally nothing.
Kim treats people like poop and doesn't really care about anyone but herself and her wife playing golf and hanging out on the lake. As a Director of Maps, most of her people couldn't stand her. Protected class and another smoocher.
2018 was the year for “KICK ASS” and “GRIT”.....the 2019 Fast Start call was lackluster.......kinda like the resources.
the first video call they did where she was introduced ....she couldn’t articulate shit about sales, formulary or the division and was falling over her words like she had no clue what she was talking about, until she started talking about herself and the ‘grit’ bullshit. Heard from her all of what 2 times since then?? Some leadership! She was a diversity hire, nothing more.