To Vag...since you do not judge


ILA is right. As I said above, what is not moral is not moral if Idiot-tarian would just admit that and say "what I do is by social standards not moral but I like it and my partners are ok with me dipping the wick in 2 pussies two nights in a row" then he'd have more credibility. Trying to deny that something that is obviously not moral just makes you look more stupid. Just own it. Like I said, all (singles) have unmarried sex. But keeping secrets and betrayal is simply breaking vows. Two different subjects.

***dipping the wick in 2 pussies two nights in a row***

You're making such an effort to make an act of warmth & affection between 2 consenting adults into a dirty thing. The OP has acknowledged the flame is out in her marriage. How could her partner NOT know that and how could he NOT romance her and try to fix it - IF - he really cared? Since he doesn't seem to care and has lapsed into that mindset where a man owns his woman and no maintenance is necessary, she has simply found some warmth and human touch elsewhere. Get over it and quit trying to make it nasty - she already said it wasn't her preference but she had a need that was going unfulfilled.

It's pretty pure & simple folks - when people get REALLY hungry, they eat or they starve.
Pretty easy choice in my book.
 
Most atheists have rules and morals.....we have just managed to equate them with being a decent human being, not fear of a red man with cloven hooves and horns who lives in an evil place that's hot.

I know that "sacred" may not be the most appropriate word for an atheist to use, but I treat my vows as such.

Vag is more than welcome to post his opinion to my post, in fact, I welcome his and any other comments. Discussing a subject such as this is one of the few things that keep me here.
 
You're making such an effort to make an act of warmth & affection between 2 consenting adults into a dirty thing. The OP has acknowledged the flame is out in her marriage. How could her partner NOT know that and how could he NOT romance her and try to fix it - IF - he really cared? Since he doesn't seem to care and has lapsed into that mindset where a man owns his woman and no maintenance is necessary, she has simply found some warmth and human touch elsewhere. Get over it and quit trying to make it nasty - she already said it wasn't her preference but she had a need that was going unfulfilled.

It's pretty pure & simple folks - when people get REALLY hungry, they eat or they starve.
Pretty easy choice in my book.

OP here...to ILA:

I never said I sought absolution from Vag. I only sought him out b/c he is not judgemental. Open mindedness Mr Perfect.

Don't think I haven't thought about what if he reverse happened. Know what? THAT would be my out! I NEVER NEVER wished this on myself...however it is what it s now. I struggle emotionally b/c of my upbringing and family. I have done the 'right' thing all my life and this is my sin. OK. I am living with it. Kow this...when I am with my lover...it is heaven. When I am with my husband...I do it to do it. NOTHING is there. He tries and I try. He finds me sexy and wants me. I can't say the same for what I see or want in him.
 
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In all honesty OP you are kind of full of shit. Either have an affair or don't but don't act like it's the right thing to do. You know it's wrong and you either live with the guilt or you don't. To expect to be validated here for your affair is goddamn stupid. ILA is a piece of shit and I wouldn't look to him as a moral compass since he's as racist and sexist as they come. But bottom line is you are living with a lie and at some point either your marriage or the affair will end. It's up to you how it ends.
 
Re: To V...since you do not judge

In all honesty OP you are kind of full of shit. Either have an affair or don't but don't act like it's the right thing to do. You know it's wrong and you either live with the guilt or you don't. To expect to be validated here for your affair is goddamn stupid. ILA is a piece of shit and I wouldn't look to him as a moral compass since he's as racist and sexist as they come. But bottom line is you are living with a lie and at some point either your marriage or the affair will end. It's up to you how it ends.

Hi ILA - nice try but 'good cop, bad cop'; went out ages ago................
 
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Have you not effing learned no one reads your links that you post? And again, it is immoral, so what? Embrace it and own it and maybe you'd get more respect. Simply say "Yes I am going against the morals that are the current society standard and I am ok with that." ILA may ram religion down everyones throats, but you do the same with your immorality. That make you a hypocrite, too.
 
OP here...to ILA:

I never said I sought absolution from Vag. I only sought him out b/c he is not judgemental. Open mindedness Mr Perfect.

Don't think I haven't thought about what if he reverse happened. Know what? THAT would be my out! I NEVER NEVER wished this on myself...however it is what it s now. I struggle emotionally b/c of my upbringing and family. I have done the 'right' thing all my life and this is my sin. OK. I am living with it. Kow this...when I am with my lover...it is heaven. When I am with my husband...I do it to do it. NOTHING is there. He tries and I try. He finds me sexy and wants me. I can't say the same for what I see or want in him.

OP, you are so funny. You are like a cat in the sandbox trying to cover up a big turd. But that turd -- i.e. your faithlessness to the man you married -- is too big and your running out of sand. And that weakling "Vagisilian" you enlisted for help is trying to help by dumping sugar on it. Go look in the mirror and ask how you like yourself.
 
This is actually a good idea - look at your face in the mirror after an incredible lovemaking session. You'll see a warm smile and you'll notice the tension is gone. You may even be lucky enough to have a shit-eatin' grin.
Things go smoother at home when you have that warm tingling feeling and - of course - it ain't nobody's business but your own.

Yep, that's what I do after enjoying the woman I married ... all the fun, none of the guilt.

Keep dumping the sugar. The turd still stinks, as does your silly advice.
 
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There is no one-size fits all moral standard as far as I can see.
First of all, no one is reading your links to sites because, um, "ted.com"? Please, sounds soooo credible. Secondly, there certainly is a one-size fits all moral standard. You just choose not to participate. Again, own it, admit it, and maybe you'd have more credibility. And I doubt very highly in the validity of any lame stat you throw around. Now go take your Valtrex.
 
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This is actually a good idea - look at your face in the mirror after an incredible lovemaking session. You'll see a warm smile and you'll notice the tension is gone. You may even be lucky enough to have a shit-eatin' grin.
Things go smoother at home when you have that warm tingling feeling and - of course - it ain't nobody's business but your own.
Just an FYI, you just basically outed yourself as a SOCIOPATH. Anyone who makes promises to others, breaks them, performs acts they know are hurtful to others, and feels no remorse is a textbook SOCIOPATH.

Thanks for shedding light on your illness.
 
This is actually a good idea - look at your face in the mirror after an incredible lovemaking session. You'll see a warm smile and you'll notice the tension is gone. You may even be lucky enough to have a shit-eatin' grin.
Things go smoother at home when you have that warm tingling feeling and - of course - it ain't nobody's business but your own.

ILA has been responding to himsel and FT is a nutcase. To the OP...I agree with Vag's note above. When the void is filled and you do not excuse anything or hurt anyone it works.

The OP from her posts does not seek righteousness. Actually you can see that she knows it is not rational, however many many people have affairs - short term or long term. I am one of them. I am also female.

If you have never been in one you cannot know. Vows are on paper. Whothe freak wrote them centuries back anyway.

I cannot jusify someone getting caught. If you are smart, fill the void girl. You never know - this man may one day be a life partner.

PS: Vag - I'd rock ur world in no time babe.
 
OP here.

I'm not surprised at the stats. Many people are shrewd enought to not 'tell or brag'. Therefore, affairs are discreet. I wish I was in a marriage where I adored my man and was in true love. I married not for the right reason.

To the poster who spouts that I seek rightiousness...are you kidding?? Why would I come here on CP? To ILA...I ask you this...have you NEVER had a sexual or impure thought about another female besides your wife throughout marriage. I mean..admit THAT at least.

I acted on the void...many others act to act just to have a roll in the hay. Is it justified either way? No. Interesting though that in the short time I started this thread...it hit a nerve with views right? Makes one wonder.

I WOULD ask why every response is being moderated though!
 
Hey OP, I'd like your opinion of my post (about respect and separating before the cheating). I'm not asking to taunt you but I'd like your honest response.

Whether you feel cheating is right or wrong, it is dishonest and disrespectful. And since I am not religious one bit, I'd like for all of you that DO believe but cheat tell me how that feels knowing you made a promise to your spouse and higher power but you can break that promise because your marriage and sex life with your spouse is no longer satisfying.

And if having respect for my husband and feeling like cheating would be the ultimate betrayal makes me a nutcase, then so be it.
 
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Hey OP, I'd like your opinion of my post (about respect and separating before the cheating). I'm not asking to taunt you but I'd like your honest response.

Whether you feel cheating is right or wrong, it is dishonest and disrespectful. And since I am not religious one bit, I'd like for all of you that DO believe but cheat tell me how that feels knowing you made a promise to your spouse and higher power but you can break that promise because your marriage and sex life with your spouse is no longer satisfying.

And if having respect for my husband and feeling like cheating would be the ultimate betrayal makes me a nutcase, then so be it.

A happily married woman doesn't spend time on CP. OK FT? Yes, you know who this is. And you should also stop posting Anon. Between you and T..X..Lad.y. I dont' know who has the shittier marriage!!! Got that?
 
A happily married woman doesn't spend time on CP. OK FT? Yes, you know who this is. And you should also stop posting Anon. Between you and T..X..Lad.y. I dont' know who has the shittier marriage!!! Got that?

Au contrare! Not only do happily married women play o the net, they flirt and all kinds of things. What happily married is now, is not necessarily what it was many years ago. Women now have the same rights as men.
 
Hey OP, I'd like your opinion of my post (about respect and separating before the cheating). I'm not asking to taunt you but I'd like your honest response.

Whether you feel cheating is right or wrong, it is dishonest and disrespectful. And since I am not religious one bit, I'd like for all of you that DO believe but cheat tell me how that feels knowing you made a promise to your spouse and higher power but you can break that promise because your marriage and sex life with your spouse is no longer satisfying.

And if having respect for my husband and feeling like cheating would be the ultimate betrayal makes me a nutcase, then so be it.

I'll answer for the OP...
You spend too much time posting anon, running women off this site and seeking gratification on these boards. No doubt that you have a self esteem prob lady. The op is doing what many people are - respecting themselves. What hole do you live in?